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Old 09-26-2017, 09:29 PM
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Re: Rusty Accord's 99 Sedan LX F23A4 w/5speed (56K)

Well, today I spent changing out the pressure side of the power steering line. Damn, I thought that the return side was a PIA, the pressure side is worse, in that you have to snake it around stuff just to get it to sit in the right place for it to bolt up. To get it in place, I fed the steering rack end of the line in place, then sent the upper part of the line up to the top of the engine. I worked both halfs from the middle, just above where the exhaust pipe sits. I'm glad I don't have a header on it, or it could have been worse. Once the bottom fitting was tight, it was just a matter of doing a little wiggling to get it to literally drop onto the pump. Figured I'd clean the res while I had the system open, and got the crap and dirty old (remaining) fluid out. Well worth doing. Also, I dropped the exhaust out from under it too. I did have 1 nut on the manifold give me a bunch of problems trying to get it off. The hot wrench did help, but it was still a PIA to get off.
Everyone remembers this; pretty crusty, and the muffler is still trying to rust thru in places (Michigan salt is tough on stainless steel).



The old cat was a Bosal replacement, that was trying to rust out.
Well it's getting replaced with this;


That's going on Wednesday, as the car is prepped for it at the moment.
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Old 09-28-2017, 12:27 AM
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Re: Rusty Accord's 99 Sedan LX F23A4 w/5speed (56K)

Ok, got it plumbed in place. Seems a shame, as that cat back exhaust is a work of art. Really hated to have to hide it under the car. Definitely sounds different. More like my son's '08 Civic Si 6 speed (that has an aftermarket exhaust system). It'll take a few days to get used to it, as it's a little louder in the upper ranges than what the old system was. We'll see if it really needed a cat, or just a downstream O2 sensor. Well, if the code comes back I'll just replace the sensor too, then I should be done under there. About the only thing I don't care for though, is the use of 2 - 7/16ths bolts to join the 2 middle pieces of pipe together. They seemed to be about a 1/4" too short. I may change them out with some slightly longer 3/8ths bolts, and use some nyloc nuts to lock them down. They're the only 2 that don't have any nyloc nuts on the system. I only say that, as that's what I used instead of the "regular" nuts that were included in the kits that I used to install it. I got the entire system from several suppliers, as I shopped around trying to get the best price on it.
In looking thru the "exhaust review" thread, the price of the cat back part hasn't really gone up since 2008, and cat prices have also held steady, or slightly dropped since then as well. It was a little difficult to spend approximately 600 for an exhaust system, but being made out of stainless steel means it'll be around for a long long time. And the best part is that I shouldn't have to do anything to it for a very long time.
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Re: Rusty Accord's 99 Sedan LX F23A4 w/5speed (56K)

Nice, reminds me of when I had my Magnaflow unboxed and laid out ready to go on. The V6 catback price has skyrocketed for some reason, I paid $430 or so for it and now it's twice that or more. Not sure why.

It will break in after a couple weeks, mine did anyway. And Magnaflows sound even better with time, good choice.
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Re: Rusty Accord's 99 Sedan LX F23A4 w/5speed (56K)

Originally Posted by RedRyder View Post
Nice, reminds me of when I had my Magnaflow unboxed and laid out ready to go on. The V6 catback price has skyrocketed for some reason, I paid $430 or so for it and now it's twice that or more. Not sure why.

It will break in after a couple weeks, mine did anyway. And Magnaflows sound even better with time, good choice.
Yeah, I shopped around and got it for 487 shipped. Everyone else wanted 532 for it. I don't know about "break in", but it definitely sounds different from the full on stock unit I removed. But then I think the old cat was plugged or partly plugged, which would quiet it down some too (had a P0420 code).
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Re: Rusty Accord's 99 Sedan LX F23A4 w/5speed (56K)

I recently put a new cat and Magnaflow muffler/Pace Setter headers on my Camaro. Sounds way better than before. I'm glad I went with Magnaflow. I'm sure you'll dig it on your Accord!

There is a bit of change in tone from the muffler after a while, I guess you could call it a break-in period. It was a little raspy right after install but that completely disappeared after a week or so.
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Re: Rusty Accord's 99 Sedan LX F23A4 w/5speed (56K)

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I recently put a new cat and Magnaflow muffler/Pace Setter headers on my Camaro. Sounds way better than before. I'm glad I went with Magnaflow. I'm sure you'll dig it on your Accord!

There is a bit of change in tone from the muffler after a while, I guess you could call it a break-in period. It was a little raspy right after install but that completely disappeared after a week or so.
Ok, I didn't know what I was looking for, but now I know it's a change in tone. Seems ok at the moment. I have been using it more lately though, so maybe it'll change and I'll be able to hear the difference. I was so used to the stock set up being so quiet, that this system seemed kind of loud at times. It's more throaty with the Magnaflow on it, and I can hear when I'm on the gas and when I'm not.
It's just a matter of getting used to it. On a side note, I've got a Magnaflow cat back on my 2006 Chevy pick up (with a V6), and I love the sound of it.
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